Re: [escepticos] Más sobre el belga en coma

[Carlos Dominguez]

Perdón, se me escapó una "k" no sé de donde. Me refiero a Scott
Lilienfeld, obviamente.

Saludetes
Carolus
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El día 24 de noviembre de 2009 19:00, Carlos Dominguez
<neuroglia.esceptica en gmail.com> escribió:
> Entre los comentarios al post de PZ, está éste sobre los mapeos
> cerebrales  de personas en estados vegetativos que me parece
> interesante:
> Las técnicas de  imagenes diagnósticas en estos casos deben ser tomada
> con escepticismo, y la "comunicación facilitada" ya es sabido que es
> charlatanería (Lilkienfeld se dedicó a ella in extenso)-
>
> Posted by: corpus.callosum | November 24, 2009 1:48 PM
>
> Wahoo, finally a Neuroscience story allowing me to go from
> enthusiastic Pharyngula-reader to commenter :D
>
> Laureys is not a kook. He's got strong opinions that aren't widely
> accepted, but the vegetative / minimally conscious / comatose arena is
> hugely complex and there are's no consensus about a lot of these
> tests. The best - and shortest - article I've read on the subject is
> this one.
>
> http://perso.univ-rennes1.fr/pascal.benquet/index_fichiers/science%20FRMI%20vegetatif.pdf
>
> This is an fMRI study where a minimally conscious (ie, no behavioural
> responses at all) patient's neural activity was compared to that of a
> healthy control, while performing mental imagery tasks, such as
> 'imagine yourself playing tennis'. They show activity in very similar
> brain areas (though reduced in intensity), which is unlikely just to
> be due to hearing the task instructions... it's far more likely that
> this activity is produced by *following* those instructions. Where
> there's someone to listen and obey instructions, there's something
> like a conscious agent locked inside, who can hear and respond. No FC
> here, and no wild claims, but a distinct possibility that all is not
> what it seems in this patient.
>
> Saludetes
> carolus
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>
>
>
>
> El día 24 de noviembre de 2009 18:39, Carlos Dominguez
> <neuroglia.esceptica en gmail.com> escribió:
>> PZ Myers también piensa lo mismo que Randi y razones no le faltan a
>> ninguno de los dos
>> http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/11/really_this_guy_is_conscious.php
>>
>> Saludetes
>> Carolus
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>> El día 24 de noviembre de 2009 16:32, José María Mateos
>> <chema en rinzewind.org> escribió:
>>> Hola:
>>>
>>> La JREF tiene un artículo bastante largo explicando el asunto del
>>> belga supuestamente "atrapado" en un coma durante 23 años sin poder
>>> comunicarse:
>>>
>>> http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/783-this-cruel-farce-has-to-stop.html
>>>
>>> Un saludo.
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