[escepticos] los limites del debate cientifico

[Carlos Ungil]

Hola, hola.

Un par de anecdatos [sic]. Supongo que es por la acción maligna del  
lobby petrolero que este tipo de cosas tienen repercusion más allá  
del circulo de iniciados, pero dan una idea del nivel de  
transparencia del debate.

Chau,

Carlitos



1)We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the  
data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something  
wrong with it.

[ Hemos invertido 25 años en esos trabajos. ¿Por qué debería  
proporcionarle los datos, si lo que quiere es intentar encontrar  
algun fallo? ]

--- Phil Jones (profesor en una universidad británica, miembro del  
consejo editorial de la revista Climatic Change, autor de varios  
libros sobre el tema)

contestando a una solicitud de datos para reproducir algunos de sus  
artículos



2) Carta de Chris Landsea, experto en huracanes, anunciando en 2005  
que abandona el IPCC (así resulta más fácil alcanzar consensos, claro):

Dear colleagues,

After some prolonged deliberation, I have decided to withdraw from  
participating in the Fourth Assessment Report of the  
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). I am withdrawing  
because I have come to view the part of the IPCC to which my  
expertise is relevant as having become politicized. In addition, when  
I have raised my concerns to the IPCC leadership, their response was  
simply to dismiss my concerns.


(....)

My work on hurricanes, and tropical cyclones more generally, has been  
widely cited by the IPCC. For the upcoming AR4, I was asked several  
weeks ago by the Observations chapter Lead Author - Dr. Kevin  
Trenberth - to provide the writeup for Atlantic hurricanes.

(...)

Dr. Trenberth participated in a press conference organized by  
scientists at Harvard on the topic "Experts to warn global warming  
likely to continue spurring more outbreaks of intense hurricane  
activity" along with other media interviews on the topic.

(...)

I found it a bit perplexing that the participants in the Harvard  
press conference had come to the conclusion that global warming was  
impacting hurricane activity today. To my knowledge, none of the  
participants in that press conference had performed any research on  
hurricane variability, nor were they reporting on any new work in the  
field. All previous and current research in the area of hurricane  
variability has shown no reliable, long-term trend up in the  
frequency or intensity of tropical cyclones, either in the Atlantic  
or any other basin.


(...)

It is beyond me why my colleagues would utilize the media to push an  
unsupported agenda that recent hurricane activity has been due to  
global warming.

(...)

The IPCC leadership saw nothing to be concerned with in Dr.  
Trenberth's unfounded pronouncements to the media, despite his  
supposedly impartial important role that he must undertake as a Lead  
Author on the upcoming AR4.



(...)


My view is that when people identify themselves as being associated  
with the IPCC and then make pronouncements far outside current  
scientific understandings that this will harm the credibility of  
climate change science and will in the longer term diminish our role  
in public policy.

Sincerely, Chris Landsea